Wednesday, March 14, 2012

Third St. Bridge - Borough Council Meeting Thursday 3/15 8pm

Media Borough Council Meeting - 8pm Boro. Community Center
If you attended the March 5th Community meeting on the Third St Bridge and feel you didn't received the information you were expecting in terms of costs, legal issues, design plans, etc., please consider attending tomorrow's borough council meeting. Questions are welcomed from the public during public comment and privilege of the floor.  Here's tomorrow night's agenda.

The meeting is held in the community center (by the Media Police Station) and starts at 8pm.  You can also view it via channel 10 on Comcast and channel 42 on Verizon FIOS.
 What Happened to the 3rd St. Bridge Surveys?
With so much emphasis put on the survey's by the CAC and borough council, I'm surprised I've still not received one as of 3/14.  I received a call from the Mayor via the borough's emergency notification system I'd get one, but still no survey. Some have received them, while others apparently haven't.  The return date is 3/19, so if you still haven't received yours, please leave a comment.
CAC minutes from 2/27

On Monday February 27th while at the CAC meeting, I asked a question of who on the CAC was a representative of the Friends of Glen Providence Park.  Neither my question or response was in the recent meeting minutes.  The CAC may not record comments from the floor, but these types of meetings should include all discussion.

27 comments:

  1. I and other people on my street have not received the survey!!!!!

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    1. Ask your mailman about that!!

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  2. I am unable to attend but would be curious as to councilwoman Simpsons stance on this project. Take a look at the May 20, 2011 article on the media patch website pertaining to the outcome of the lawsuit. Councilwomen Simpson commends council and past council. I quote vp Simpson "despite the challenges of having this road closed. Let's look at not just the immediate past but all the efforts That went into the making of this great decision."

    Albert einsteins definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. This is our council, past, current, future! Unfortunately the losers of this insanity are the tax paying residents of media!

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  3. The survey has missed me twice. Once at my house address and at my paid PO BOX. This postal customer gets twice the junkmail.

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  4. Tedman is right about coming out to council meetings...when you show up, your presence is known to council members, and you get to see what goes on that the camera doesn't show. Or just watch from home...put on some popcorn! Keep in mind that if there's anything you see on TV that you wish to question or comment on, "Public Comment" is offered at both the beginning AND the end of the meeting...C'mon down!! Council chambers are in the Community Center building, 301 N Jackson (east side of building).

    At council meetings you have the opportunity to actually ask for answers to questions. What that means is that you're responsible for asking responsible questions(you need to state your name and address), and that they are 'on the spot' to come across with (or up with!) some reasonable answers. The Borough Manager, Solicitor and Engineer are all there, as are all (or most) councilpersons... now's your chance! Get the facts (or the bull), and get it on record. This has been called (in my case, at least)"holding their feet to the fire". And beyond that, it contributes to the whole civic discourse, puts your idea, concern or question 'into the mix', and (in televised legislative sessions) gets the information out to the whole community in 'real-time'.

    That said, there's not likely to be a whole lot of hard info on specific costs, specific alternate designs, specific future directions, specific legal issues, etc of TSP tonight...mostly because at this time those things don't exist. But many things speculated about here in this blog could be cleared up. AND next month will be a 'juicy one'; the CAC will have submitted its report and Borough Council will be preparing to go back to PennDOT, and start to move forward in some direction. What that will be is truly anybody's guess; if anyone thinks they know what this project will end up as at this point, they are probably wrong.


    Looks like this one's starting to heat up!! Democracy in action....

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    1. You write with too many comments in parentheses. Also, you're starting to creep people out.

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    2. I agree, anon 10:56. Too many parentheses. Also, too many facts. You can understand how that would "creep people out". (I'm sure.)

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  5. For all those concerned citizens of Delaware County that do not feel you have had a voice representing you please contact State Senator Dominic Pileggi.

    He can be contacted at the following link:
    http://www.senatorpileggi.com/contact.aspx

    Media Borough is unable to change the court ordered stipulation and current plans without the approval of Delaware County and Broomall Swim Club. Senator Pileggi has responded to my request as well as put in a call to Sidney New, the project coordinator for Department of Transportation, for an update to the project.

    Voice your concerns as Media Borough Residents are not the only one with a voice.

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  6. Greenway man! Yeah that is what I'm talking about! Right on man. We need to fight the power and do what is right for people man. Let's not throw the "green" out with the "way" man. Let's put them together so we can form a greenway man - see that is what I am talking about man. Cooperation man, power to the people, just look at Russia man communism seemed to work for them, right, I think? Or China man, communism is good for china man - unless, well gee I don't know man. Dude, I can't find my car keys man...

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  7. Media's ConscienceMarch 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Anyone will tell you, "anonymous I"....

    This is strictly a local, municipal issue. Senator Pileggi's only involvement was to help get the funding. PennDOT's only involvement is to pay for 80% of it and help us get it done. The County's only involvement is to not have to pay, and to protect the park. The swim club thinks they can bring political pressure to bear here; those days are gone! Upper Providence is so frustrated, they just say "our road is open...." (and Media can just go jump in their lake). BLCC needs help here; best not to continue infuriating and inflaming everyone on the project any further and start cooperating....

    The project is the borough's responsibility; many excellent solutions are available for this area. Take a look at that "lake" today--the water has been drawn down for the last time, and it is now, and always will be, at least half marsh. Does the swim club have any solutions to offer other than clinging to their defective agreement? Others do. Do swim club members want the club to continue in this direction? Most don't.

    Step aside, Swim Club. This is the job of government and, in any case, a huge gift to you. Nobody wants to do you wrong; Medians want to help you, but you're making it difficult. It's just that you can't get everything you think you want by just demanding it.

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    1. "Step aside swim club. This is the job of government..." Are kidding me! The founding fathers are turning over in their graves. Government!! That is your answer.

      Get the corn cobs out of your ears and listen up you pinko liberal commi - government is the problem. Alright Frenchie! Why don't you go move to Greece and see what an excellent job "Government" is doing over there. Step aside you big bad evil private enterprise that is owned by citiznes - you step aside big government is hear to trample on your rights.
      Hey Brainless - we fought a war over this - It was called the Revolutionary war. You putz! So go fly your French flag, and when the enemy start knocking throw your arms up in name of art and let them come rolling right in.

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    2. It's easy to throw out terms like Frenchie and pinko. But you must remember that if it wasn't for government and unions we would still be living under the thumbs of evil businessman who give us and our CHILDREN black lungs and kept us living in their tenemants... C'mon, is it too much to have us work and pay and live and die in a couple of decent rooms and a bath. Anyway media Council doesn't think so, to them we are people.... Thank God for our unions and our government! We have elected this council to make these tough decisions in the best interest of the people and it looks like that is exactly what they are doing.

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    3. Oui, oui! Vive la difference! Oui need a green-vay so oui can baise dans le parc!

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    4. Yup. Government of the people, by the people and for the people, cornholio. What, you prefer government by the courts? By the private clubs?

      Then, you come sucking along to government for the million$ it's gonna take to fix your dam. Waahh!

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    5. If you are not interested in Government involvement, there are probably many other communities who would be happy to take this funding and propose a project that benefits all without catering to any specific group. If the funding source acted as a parent, it would take this toy away from it's children and say "This is why we can't have nice things."

      Pinko? Commi?

      Did I just step into the 1960s? Class & culture wars are apparently timeless.

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    6. Just a heads up, WE (Meaning the US) won the cold war. Got that Comrad!

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  8. The term greenway is the biggest misnomer since the Holy Roman Empire. How is it that a bridge that encourages the use of MORE fuel by causing people to drive longer distances good for the environment? That would be like closing the Panama Canal in the name of Mother Earth. If the reason for a greenway is to keep the neighborhood children safe from the increased traffic, then focus on that in the dialogue. I am not registered, but I received the survey in the mail this week.

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    1. "Greenway" is a poor term. There are a lot of things that can be done with that space--with or without a dam, and with or without a road. And one way or another, we need to do WAY better than the 'bare-bones' highwayside plans that were offered in 1998--and can get the money to do it.

      Everyone agrees that, road or no road, we need something that will be pedestrian friendly and will be well designed aesthetically. PennDOT "Does that all the time", and if we're going to do it, we need to get it right.

      Communities all over are starting to find the value of "common areas" and "Green Spaces", all 'environmentalism' aside. Besides, there are other issues...Stormwater control, sediment control, park access, future park development and parking, development in the area...the list goes on and on.

      Let's be careful not to get 'sold short' on this deal. The mess that gets left behind (if not planned for in advance) would surely be ours (Media borough's) to deal with. And you-know-who would end up paying for that.

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    2. Unfortunately that time has past. Council has had 17 years to get this done, and now that it is done and ready to proceed there is as small group of individuals looking to change what was agreed upon by all parties. We are at jeopordy of losing the funding, if that happens I think we all know who will end up paying for this!

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    3. That "small group of individuals" being the majority of people in the community....

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    4. We ARE in jeopardy of losing the funding if you guys keep jacking around with lawsuits, worrying about parenthesis, and bothering the Senator!

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    5. The "time has passed" to design the area well? I sure hope not.....

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  9. Ms. Roe misspoke at tonight's meeting. No resident, including any current council member, has ever signed a petition supporting dam removal. The current non-binding survey offers it as an option which PennDot is willing to fund.

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    1. Ms. Roe corrected herself. You heard it but obviously chose to leave that part out. Along with the fact the one person stated she was misled in signing the petition and wanted her named removed from it.

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    2. That "one person" (an elderly woman) was escorted from the meeting on Paul Cavanagh's arm....

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  10. I received the survey at my shop, no problem. It kinda looks like plain envelope junk mail. So please everyone, make sure you didn't accidentally throw it in the recycling bag like I almost did.

    Due on Monday, you can hand deliver it to Borough Hall.

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